June 14, 2011 at 2:40 am · Reply
My thoughts in this post Mark is that i use a totally different approach to the word “try”.

By going out and trying to be aggresive you achived it you went out and “tried” to be aggresive but you dont get any learning when you succeed you must fail in order to get better.

Im a pro poker player an like seduccion the nature of both games tend to make you fail and succeed

If you are not failing at least 50% of the time you are doing something wrong

June 14, 2011 at 10:26 am · Reply
In general, this rule (which, for the reason JT outlines, I call the “Jedi Rule”) is one that I use a lot.

However, I think TR’s example was unfair. “Show me trying to pick up a chair” is unfair, because there is not normally much effort required to pick up a chair.

The word “try” derives from the same root as “trial”, and in another sense is a synonym for “test”. To say “I will try” or “I tried” is to acknowledge that something is going to be testing, or a trial. To show “try” in the context of lifting something one would have to say, “Show me trying to lift that very heavy object.” Then, when the person fails to lift it, you can say “That’s not trying, that’s not picking up the heavy object” but to do so is to negate the effort that is put into it.

Of course, some people find lifting heavy objects easier than others do. Those people might look scornfully on the person who fails to pick up the heavy object and assume that they are simply not putting enough effort into it (which, in the sense that effort is used as a synonym for absolute value of physical force, would be accurate; but effort as proportion of maximum possible output is a relative measure).

It is always questionable to take a physical analogy and translate it into a psychological question like this.

The problem being targeted by TR is the idea that “I will try” means either “I will not give it much effort” (which adds up to, “I won’t put it to the test”, in other words, “I won’t try”) or else, “I believe that I will fail.”